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Like that, it's rape and everything else, chris, but let me say this, the pope wrote in letter, apparently let this priest go in 1996, he began has predations in 1950. remblend weakland the archbishop of milwaukee knew about this for three years and writes the pope and says "should i defrock him?" why is the "the new york times" not going after? is a great liberal. let me say this. >> oh, please. >> dealt cards to the enemies of the church and the enemies of the pope. >> that's certainly the case and makes common sense to me but we're talking about friends of the church. >> which predecessor w...

>> that meant don't take them to the police. >> it couldn't be '62 because he wasn't even a cardinal. >> that's right -- >> i'm looking at a document that came out o the church in '62 that talked about, as joan was saying in this other regard, the vatican poly barring bishops from reporting abuse to priests -- why does the church not think of this of criminal? you used the term criminal. why not think of these as crimes. >> cardinal ratzinger -- >> hold it, joan. >> i just want to get that fact out. i'm not talking about '62. i'm talking about the early '80s, pat. >> all right, look, no doubt ...

Letter, apparently let this priest go in 1996, he began has predations in 1950. rem blend weakland the archbishop of milwaukee knew about this for three years and writes the pope and says "should i defrock him?" why is the "the new york times" not going after? is a great liberal. let me say this. >> oh, please. >> dealt cards to the enemies of the church and the enemies of the pope. >> that's certainly the case and makes common sense to me but we're talking about friends of the church. >> which predecessor was it. >> look to the church who are respects, nonmembers of the catholic church right ...