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Procedure like this? >> well, open the chest and for his case, taking the haeart and assist device. >> alisyn: they take it out. >> remove it and put the new one in. >> alisyn: how long does that take. >> for his surgery in particular, which is i think his third surgery which may take over six hours. >> clayton: we have some sound when he was on hannity back in the fall and talked about the device he had outside of his chest and listen to what he said about this and talk about any complications on this, take a listen. >> feel the same. much better than i did before. >> that's it right there. >...

Way. you know, there's not necessarily anything wrong with that except when it violates international tax law or when it goes to fund international criminal activity and terrorism. >> well, that leads me to my question, evan. just by virtue of these other individuals being involved in this hawala, is that necessarily in and of itself there's something na fairious going on or that they know there is or just a matter of tradition and how money changes hands among some people? >> could be a matter of tradition. i don't know whether or not this is exactly illegal. it deeps how they were doing it. ...