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Edge on the exists race skinhead movement in portland in the 1980s to try to incite the local racist skinheads up there to further and more radical and more violent action. and when those portland skinheads then killed that man outside his apartment building that november night in 1988, the criminals themselves, the skinheads themselves who did it, they were punished by the criminal law. but then there was this lawsuit that was brought not only against them, it was also brought against tom metzger and his organization, white aryan resistance. and that lawsuit, of course, was not a criminal cas...

That was brought not only against them, it was also brought against tom metzger and his organization, white aryan resistance. and that lawsuit, of course, was not a criminal case. it was not going to add criminal charges against metzger or his group. it didn't add additional prison time to anybody's sentence and of course it didn't bring back the man they beat to death, but it did put a $12.5 million price on that murder. as the cost to be paid by that corner of the white nationalist terrorist movement. so, i mean, where were these racist thugs and these skinheads and these, you know, aryan or...