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Democrats like dianne feinstein are getting a lot of push from the left to be more liberal. how does that play when you are not from california, but you are from missouri or other more moderate even red states? >> you know, honestly, dana, i think we make a mistake in trying to define every issue from the conventional notion of left or right. it doesn't apply. remember, 54% of america voted against donald trump's agenda and voted against donald trump's candidacy for president. and the country stands strongly for immigration reform, recognizes climate change as real. recognizes the right of the...

Prosecute federal law. he is in charge of the fbi, the drug enforcement administration, bureau of prisons, and he runs all of the 93 united states attorneys which are the federal prosecutors which is what he was. he actually knows the job that he is supervising. steve: sure. >> which is fantastic. this is the guy like the mechanic in in store and now he is in charge. steve: he is indeed. what about jared kushner who is donald trump's son-in-law. one of four top advisors, ivanka, don, jr., and eric trump. sounds like high-ranking advisor to the president of the united states. some are suggestin...

Views that directly contradict everything we stand for at texas a&m. it was a sad realization, most certainly. >> let's put this in a larger perspective. a lot of universities have been criticized for not divergent views. kond lee zaharias, rutgers didn't want her to give the commencement speech. universities have become safe zone-y so a view that's counter to everything you may believe is kept out. does that apply? should he have a platform to speak? >> it doesn't apply. that was objecting to her politics which made no sense to me. i felt the protest was ridiculous. this is somebody advocatin...

Prohibited. they're trying to use that as a dodge. it doesn't apply, does it? >> i don't think so. what's the difference if you don't serve someone, versus not baking a cake. they have always served gay people. the difference is you're being asked to participate in a act that violates your faith. what this suggests is that being true to your faith is hateful. that's something that everybody when we're defending people of conscious -- look i would bake the cake. i think -- i think that's a good thing. but in this situation, we're defending the notion that people of conscious, acting on your fai...

They knew what they were getting. >> they may have set him up. >> the first amendment doesn't apply. it's not the government shutting it down. the bedrock of the first amendment is the answer to speech you don't like is not less speech. it's more speech. the governor's point is that too often we hear something we find offensive and instead of engaging in a meaningful back and forth we hurl terms like racist, homophobe and it shuts down the debate. >> it doesn't apply and the government isn't involved here. the idea is to invite speech. to invite dialogue. >> a & e has the right to say we don't...