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Opec in the big picture. yeah, i absolutely agree. it s not that this is the most important issue facing the country to do. august of the arguments line up to line up with the keystone pipeline. it creates jobs. it doesn t create hundreds of thousands of jobs. it creates jobs. i must say if i had a miserable job creating record like president obama, i don t think i would be scoffing at anything that created jobs. i just want to underscore one other thing which is by obama s own reasoning which is this concern about climate change, his argument doesn t hold up, because the oil is going to flow. if it doesn t flow to us as charles has argued, it s going to flow somewhere else. so, there is no reason not to do this. and it, indeed, can help us achieve some amount of independence over time with with other things from a region that is always unstable. doesn t make sense to oppose it. bret: another thought from the panel on another big story when we come ....

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