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Campaign. do you want to help us? and a person who can't stand manafort said i can't like this guy. the idea that manafort is colluding, he law enforcement officers them out of the room. it doesn't look was disclosed.uf the room. it doesn't look was disclosed. >> if we walked into a hearing with them, i don't know what they would not tell us. i know they have plenty -- it's about time to get the darn thing over with. say enough. we tortured this president enough. meanwhile, look at what he accomplished with all of this on his back. it's like a big weight on his

Much about that. >> what a walk away looks like. >> a walk away does not look good for president trump because he's invested so much of his political -- >> what does it look like for people. >> it doesn't look -- for kim, it doesn't matter. he already comes out of this looking good. he's made peace with south korea. he has offered to -- >> trump is not going to be shamed. >> yes. but the thing is, trump has to control a message in a country where there's an open media. that is likely to criticize him as not. kim jong-un does not have that problem. he controls the media. this is important. one ...

But it's called transshipping. it doesn't look good when it comes out of china, they send it through other countries and it comes to us. and it's putting our steel mills out of business. our aluminum mills are going out of business. we need steel and we need aluminum. there's a theory that if a country doesn't have steel it doesn't have a country. and it's true. so this is more than just pure economics. this is about defense, this is about the country itself. but, again, remember this, we lose $800 billion a year in trade. i think i was elected at least partially on this issue. and i've been s...

If the vice president were to help forge that kind of diplomacy, that it doesn't look, you know, strong enough, you know, from the president's point of view, after all that saber rattling and, you know, harsh talk? >> it's a great question, fred. i think what it reflects is their own interstaff, interagency tensions over north korea. i think the nsc under mcmaster and the president are more bullish about where to go with north korea. the state department and the pentagon are really trying hard to find a diplomatic path forward, trying to find some sort of channel of communications. and i think...

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