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Rick santorum won it, it has this record of producing some irrelevant results, ultimately for who's going to end up in the general election. are they at risk of that now? >> it is. it's something they're worried about. there were discussions a couple years ago about potentially even stripping iowa of its first-in-the-nation caucus status. iowa picks corn, new hampshire picks presidents. that's been accurate. that's challenge for iowa voters, the iowan republican party to prove that their judgment actually matters, that it's sound, that it's in line, that it is a proper barometer for the rest o...

General election. are they at risk of that now? >> it is. it's something they're worried about. there were discussions a couple years ago about potentially even stripping iowa of its first-in-the-nation caucus status. iowa picks corn, new hampshire picks presidents. that's been accurate. that's challenge for iowa voters, the iowan republican party to prove that their judgment actually matters, that it's sound, that it's in line, that it is a proper barometer for the rest of the party. if it doesn't make a president, it does pick the conservative alternative to the establishment candidate, whet...