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That it becomes something we will see how consistently he explains what it was does it match up with what you know the government official defending it explained it to us as. we don't again -- he we don't know what it means pup. but on the business level it is as you said it's fascinating this incredibly unusual and surprising -- look the president made clear he was coming to washington to drive a wrecking ball through a lot of things. to that extent it is not a surprise. he and supported by certainly his son-in-law jared kushner and other white house officials has sort of had disdain for some...

This -- you know the -- you could look at the appointment of special counsel as almost an opportunity for this president to like say you know what that's the investigation it's ongoing. focusing on my agenda but here we are. >> anderson it was an opportunity for him to do that especially because things moved so fast these days he could have done it that but he can't stop talking about it because as you know when he field personally aggrieved he fakes 80s on something obsesses about it and per sever 80s on it it becomes cyclely and can't stop bach if incredible reporting thanks very much reacti...

But what do you do then? you have for a time being a divided country. and given the fact that we know a lot about colonel gadhafi and don't like him and given the fact that we know very little about the rebels in the east who really did this uprising, for the time being, that may not be a bad outcome. >> so then -- >> it doesn't settle things. it doesn't settle things. but settling it may involve much more military involvement on our parts. and i don't think our interests justify that kind of additional military engagement. >> well, we don't know, and that has been one question, if two libyas ...

Person in the russian ambassador had not reached to a meeting for why didn't you call heim sort of to that effect talked with roeh about his crowd size i believe. >> he was talking to the russians about the crowd size at the inauguration. >> i think -- i don't know if the inauguration. >> just in general. >> i think it was the inauguration. >> but it wassed. >> god knows he's talked about it all. >> look this is a lot of this stuff that we -- he is not saying much there that he hasn't said publicly. but he is saying it there in the oval office with two russian officials. >> and calling the for...

This is all problematic for the president. >> matt, i mean the white house press secretary sean spicer isn't denying the president said those things correct. >> no he is not. a note about the 14 hour plane trip we have a colleague on that plane in the final minutes we're getting ready to get this story out one of our editors was like oh oh we got to call that guy and they're taxis on the runway saying this is going to pop after you get in the air. so i mean i don't know what's going on on that plane but it can't be a happy place at the moment. yeah no i think the white house they kind of went ...