but what do you do then? you have for a time being a divided country. and given the fact that we know a lot about colonel gadhafi and don't like him and given the fact that we know very little about the rebels in the east who really did this uprising, for the time being, that may not be a bad outcome. >> so then -- >> it doesn't settle things. it doesn't settle things. but settling it may involve much more military involvement on our parts. and i don't think our interests justify that kind of additional military engagement. >> well, we don't know, and that has been one question, if two libyas begin to emerge or not. then who takes control and trying to learn more about the opposition and their philosophy and who might emerge. les gelb, thank you. we'll check back in with you. i'm now getting word that we have someone on the phone who i