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And you have an obstacle course that can turn deadly at any given step. >> here we are, kamau, this is the ends of the infrastructure we have in place. it doesn't span the border, at least not yet. but that's what the border used to look like there. >> that's where the. >> those sticks and those barbed wire fence right there. >> wow. >> you know what you're walking on, that's the trail. you can see it's already started growing back. >> oh, this here. >> this used to be a trail where immigrants were walking through. >> wow. >> not that long ago because somebody ate candy here recently. >> look ...

Walk. but in reality the trip is three to five days. >> that's the trip once you get on this side. >> that's once you get on this side. >> temperatures here with reach well over 100 degrees. combine that with mountain pass at over 3,800 feet. add a liberal amount of snakes scorn scorpions, coyotes and you've got an obstacle course that's deadly as any given step. >> here we are, kamau, this is the ends of the infrastructure. it doesn't span the border, at least not yet. but that's what the border used to look like there. >> that's where the. >> the sticks and bashed wire fence. >> wow. >> you ...

Well over 100 degrees. combine that with mountain pass at over 3,800 feet. add a liberal amount of snakes skorp ons coyotes and wiegtss you've go an obstacle course that's dedesly as any given step. >> here we are, kamau, this is the ends of the infrastructure. it doesn't span the border, at least not yet. but that's what the border used to look like there. >> that's where the. >> the sticks and bashed wire fence. >> wow. >> you know what you're walking on, that's the trail. you can see it's already started growing back. >> oh this here. >> this used to be a trail where immigrants were walking...

Trump did say, you send me something and i'll sign it. >> you said a deal will get done, do you think it'll be a clean deal? do you think there's going to be a wall in there? what do you think? >> well, listen, yes, i think he has to get something he can defend and say i got something out of this in terms of border protection. now, his definition changed a lot today. first of all, he lowered the price of the wall and he diminished the distance of the wall. so i think he's very flexible about what that is, just as long he can take something back and say i enhanced the wall somehow. and i think ...

Give him that, give him some border protection money, but at the end of the day democrats get a deal that keep immigrants who are here here and republicans get a deal that keep immigrants who aren't here out. >> first of all, how is it if it doesn't span across the entire border, how is that a big beautiful wall with a door in it, because it's actually not. he's lowering expectations. you know what i mean? >> i often want to end up with a very nice hedge -- we've all stopped talking about what happened to mexico paying for it? >> i want to play this. this is the president, he started the meeti...