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Ballot. politics of fear and anger. it was on the ballot and it won. it was situational, but long-term, it was devastating to the republican party. i think the same will happen across the nation. >> you think that's what is at the core of president trump's kind of strategy, pitting people against each other? >> of course. i mean, it's textbook. none of this is novel. none of this is new. it's very familiar, not just to people in california, all across the country. politics, again, of fear and anger, and it works situati situationally. it doesn't work long-term, but it works short-term. it's al...

>> he's certainly acting like it. he's advancing policies that are set to divide. these are the policies that are being advanced by not a president at the time in the '80s and '90s. 1994 when pete wilson was governor of california running for re-election and he advanced initiative prop 187. we had three strikes. politics of fear and anger. it was on the ballot and it won. it was situational but long term it was devastating to the republican party. i think the same will happen across the nation. >> you think that's what is at the core of president trump's kind of strategy, getting people agains...

Actually bringing jobs back because of this move. so it does -- >> what happens is in directly in the steel and aluminum industries, it may create a couple of jobs, but the downstream jobs that it destroys is way bigger. we went through this already when george bush did it. we've done this already. it doesn't work long-term. >> guys, i've got to leave it there. >> we're not creating a couple jobs. we're creating millions and millions of jobs. >> not because of tariffs. >> the chamber of commerce has said there will be millions of jobs lost with implementing these tariffs. thank you very much, ...