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South africa had truth and reconciliation. some of these people in the republican party want to have reconciliation without truth. it doesn't work. you have to call this out. you have to say i will not be part of a party that mocks other religions, that is a fundamentally anti-constitutional effort to put autocracy in america. you just can't do it. and this is why i say that you have to burn the party to the ground. you have to start over. there's not a conservative philosophy here. nobody in america can tell you what the republican party stands for in any conservative sense. there's no logic ...

And you can't say that we're just going to ignore the pass. it doesn't work. it never works. >> that is a perfect example of what i am talking about. this idea of my proposal is not to talk about the central defining questions facing the party of american democracy and focus on, we don't like inflation, or joe biden, that's not going to cut it. >> it's not the world that we live in. it is a world that i'd like to live in i think. i'd like to have two parties that had opposing philosophies of government so that we can get back to talking about these differences. but that is not what we have rig...

Of the reasons the supply chain and things are running out at the grocery store because of all this spending and paying people not to work. you see for hire signs in every single business and the cost of hot wings to hot dogs and gas, everything is going up. jason: yeah. one last question here. we've only got a few seconds left. one of the policies democrats are trying to push is this massive surge in the irs. i thought of we learned a lesson after lois learner but i guess not. $80 billion or so to beef up the irs, 80 plus thousand agents out there doing more than 1.2 million additional audits...

Of the reasons the supply chain and things are running out at the grocery store because of all this spending and paying people not to work. you see for hire signs in every single business and the cost of hot wings to hot dogs and gas, everything is going up. jason: yeah. one last question here. we've only got a few seconds left. one of the policies democrats are trying to push is this massive surge in the irs. i thought of we learned a lesson after lois learner but i guess not. $80 billion or so to beef up the irs, 80 plus thousand agents out there doing more than 1.2 million additional audits...

For them and are not necessary. our hospitals are filled with people who are dying, dying of covid who could be alive and also taking hospital beds from other people who are sick. so, yeah, it has a very deadly consequence. >> yeah, and, chris, i mean -- but it's just absurd. you've been to these cpacs. i mean, i know there was a certain level of trolling that always existed at cpacs, but this is so bizarre, it's like a different universe compared to the cpac that we used to attend as reporters like five years ago. >> it used to be interesting because you had different kinds of conservatives. ...