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Political party and a president from another political party, you get some detail from the deep state to go to the white house, this disturbed me -- can you imagine the unmasking conversations they had in the white house? what if there was a whistle-blower then? >> this is like the hatfields and the mccoys. >> laura: it's back and forth. >> it is so ignorant, so stupid, it's neanderthal. to say that he doesn't have a right to call witnesses, to say that -- let's say i assert attorney-client privilege. i'm obstructing justice? by asserting attorney-client privilege? of everything i have in my f...

Go. what will you be watching and listening for when they come out to that podium? >> what if it doesn't work, chris? that's the big question here. in the mueller investigation we saw chairman -- judiciary chairman jerry nadler issue 12 different subpoenas for individuals like john kelly, former white house chief of staff, jared kushner. a lot of them were ignored and are now tied up in the court system. speaker pelosi has said she doesn't want to wait on the court system in this case, that they're going to plunge ahead, that they feel they already have the information based on what the white ...

Was a part of. he was regularly on fox news. but it is a different audience. and fox news is very aware of who they are talking to. >> you want to say, shawn, is "the wall street journal" fake news. >> obviously you are not going to make any headway with shawn hannity because his loyalty is to president trump. he endorsed president trump prior to the election. shawn hannity is put forward by fox news as an opinion journalist, but he is obviously someone that is on president trump's side. >> it feels 100% like that all over again. and the trump administration and particularly those people aroun...

School cards or health records. it doesn't work. the judge made the right decision, the state will appeal it. we feel good that this is going to stick. heather: what about impact on other states? similar situation going on in new york? >> absolutely. if it is unconstitutional in california it is unconstitutional everywhere and i hope this will deter other states from going down this path. when you have a federal civil rights lawsuit challenging what you are doing in the state you may a attorneys fees of the rnc, the president and all these people and it is not effective and they should move on...

>> well, he's the president, and he's got -- he's got some people around. look, i'm not going to tell you he's sitting there thinking he's going to go blow up the world. what i'm saying is i think there's very little consistency. i think there's a lack of depth among his advisers. i think he doesn't speak clearly. i think that he has separated us from our allies, which is one of our greatest strengths. all those things lead to instability, and instability does not lead to a good place. it doesn't. and then look at the activity around north korea. north korea continues to move ahead and develop...