>> well, he's the president, and he's got -- he's got some people around. look, i'm not going to tell you he's sitting there thinking he's going to go blow up the world. what i'm saying is i think there's very little consistency. i think there's a lack of depth among his advisers. i think he doesn't speak clearly. i think that he has separated us from our allies, which is one of our greatest strengths. all those things lead to instability, and instability does not lead to a good place. it doesn't. and then look at the activity around north korea. north korea continues to move ahead and develop weapons that are very dangerous, and they just -- he just sort of dismisses it. this is a very serious matter. iran, north korea, the trade war with china -- all of it done alone, by himself with his own instincts. it doesn't work. >> that's it, john kasich. thank you. we're out of time. i'll see you next time. >> thanks, don lemon. >> thank you. >> see ya. president trump sending mixed messages about the saudi oil attacks, and tonight