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Nationalism, of there being a domestic terrorism movement here, about it dovetailing in some ways with the ragged edge of right-wing american politics and right-wing media right now in a way that is, that is a different kind of challenge. i'll tell you that in terms of the gun reform piece of this, the -- as we are routinely confounded by the fact that we don't make changes, that when there are gun massacres, that as much as anybody expresses a need for there to be some sort of change, for some reason, things always get stuck. the nra always leads the charge, the republican party always sides ...

Confronting. but there is also, as jose's guest there was just saying, there is this issue of white nationalism, of there being a domestic terrorism movement here, about it dovetailing in some ways with the ragged edge of right-wing american politics and right-wing media right now in a way that is, that is a different kind of challenge. i'll tell you that in terms of the gun reform piece of this, the -- as we are routinely confounded by the fact that we don't make changes, that when there are gun massacres, that as much as anybody expresses a need for there to be some sort of change, for some ...

Terrorist attack on the latino community in the united states is a huge portion of what we have to contend with here as a country. obviously, the gun reform issues and the gun policy issues are something that we are instantly both confounded by and confronting. but there is also, as jose's guest there was just saying, there is this issue of white nationalism, of there being a domestic terrorism movement here, about it dovetailing in some ways with the ragged edge of right-wing american politics and right-wing media right now in a way that is, that is a different kind of challenge. i'll tell yo...