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Vocal opponent of the bill. he joins me now. governor, thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome, jake. >> here is how president trump reacted to senate republicans' failure. >> let obamacare fail. it will be a lot easier. and i think we're probably in that position where we'll just let obamacare fail. we're not going to own it. i'm not going to own it. i can tell you the republicans are not going to own it. >> there are, of course, measures that could be passed today to help stabilize obamacare instead of letting it fail, but the president seems to want it to fail. that's the strate...

Good thing to campaign on. what works for republicans favor i say, not in the short term in terms whether this passes but next year in terms whether this has gone through or not, democrats, their messaging is not great. you're on this. seeing a lot of outside groups very affected. the aarp. a couple typically, you know, against this form of government groups. but democrats have not really done a great job according to a lot of democratic strategists i'm speaking with, walking through exactly what this is going to mean. who this hurts. precisely how this hurts. it's getting more sort of swept u...

Recess, he's already giving a win to some of the senators that expressed reservations, ron johnson and others who said, we can't have a vote this week. we need more time to look at this. they're already getting a victory now and able to go back to swifconstituents and say tha. so this will give mcconnell some breathing room to try piece this breathing room to try piece this together. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >> this is an embarrassment by necessity. the idea of going to the floor with a bill that he knew was going to fail after seven years of making this the fundamental core promi...

Cover pre-existing conditions and some things and obamacare was written for, and i don't think -- most americans are fine with that. the problem is, we've spent so much money with implementing this and watching it fail, the projections on what the costs are, if you take that pool of people out that really do need catastrophic coverage and things like this, which is available in the regular health care system, it would be a fraction of the costs. he's going to have a tough time selling the idea of how to do that without burdening the taxpayer when the overwhelming number of people who need heal...

I think there's a sense that doing something and having it fail is better than simply doing nothing. if they have a majority, they've been saying for eight years, seven years, they're going to repeal this law and then they do nothing about it. that's potentially more dangerous for that senate majority than taking a vote on thing like this and having it fail. look, i think the overall dynamic here with the president is quickly devolving into a nightmare scenario. i think instead of talking about -- when this came in, they were talking about infrastructure. chuck schumer was saying, look, we're ...