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Right? >> that's right. and i believe the fellow you're talking about is rosco pound, who was the dean of harvard law school at the tail end of the progressive era. pound was basically someone who was responsible for applying progressive ideas to the law. and what it's called today is legal realism. that's the name of theory or the legal philosophy. and basically what legal realism does, glenn, it tries to take what the constitution says, which isn't what a lot of the judges thinks it needs to say and through case law, through decisions they apply it, they shall we say read it flexably, libera...

Right? >> that's right. and i believe the fellow you're talking about is rosco pound, who was the dean of harvard law school at the tail end of the progressive era. pound was basically someone who was responsible for applying progressive ideas to the law. and what it's called today is legal realism. that's the name of theory or the legal philosophy. and basically what legal realism does, glenn, it tries to take what the constitution says, which isn't what a lot of the judges thinks it needs to say and through case law, through decisions they apply it, they shall we say read it flexably, libera...