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Who has got to go to help the president? >> right now, geitner could go. that would solve a lot of the problems. in 2012, he'll have to answer for holder in 20 seconds. >> who do you think? >> i'm afraid of getting beaten up. i'll say rahm emanuel. >> or a guy sws up at your door naked. i think it's all about the economy and i think it's going to be geitner because people compare ultimately about their pocketbooks. they care less about health care but care about their pocketbooks. >> none of you think the inner core but axelrod, you think he's doing a good job. >> axelrod put him there. he mad...

His he way, that he's lost his values, that he must be confused. i'm just wondering, as hard as it may be to accept, are you just saying these things to make yourself feel better? in other words, that he just must be crazy? i guess my question is, is it fobl for possible for a man or woman to fall out of love with their spouse and fall in love with someone else, and maybe that's the case here? if it is the case, should a person stay in a marriage if they've been married 20 years and have four children? >> no. i actually agree with you that it is -- i think it is possible for a man -- i think i...