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It. there has to be a little bit of fear. that something could happen. >> this is a clean one! >> the only apology should ever be made for a joke is, i'm sorry people didn't find it funny. because maybe you take a swing and a miss but you should never apologize for having a go. >> they wrote a very nasty article about me with the headline, "you cannot joke about rape." ahhhhh. turns out you can. >> the whole politically correct thing going on right now, i'm happy that it's going on but it's nothing new. every couple of decades there has to be this big ugly let's take it all apart and we see wh...

It's a question of that was kind of funny, let's move on. maybe can i make a joke about that, maybe somebody else will laugh. most of us don't take it personally because at the end of the day, it's -- it's a stupid comment. we don't need to dignify it with a response. and when we want to dignify it with a response we're going to make it funny. that's the best way we can deal with the stuff. >> it's comical because they criticize us as individuals rather than what we're actually preaching because they can't see a fault in what we're saying so they have to go after us directly. >> one on one. ha...

Admiration expressed to you by the former president and first lady. i know on this network that leans more to the left has been about being impressed by your activism what you've been able to accomplish. i know there has been a lot of personal attacks. i know you've been singled out. how are you coping with that? >> reporter: it's n. >> it's not hard to cope with. it's that was funny, let's move on. let's make a joke. most of us don't take it personally because at the end of the day, it's -- it's a stupid comment. we don't need to dignify it with a response. and when we want to dignify it with...

>> and the focus on the investigations by members of congress. we were fwaikt every day. so it speaks to what's going on in our environment, clearly. it doesn't mean it's not an important story. obviously, there are lives being told from somew clearly. and this is about paying off a, i don't know what to call her really. >> an adult film actress? >> she's been defined by many things. >> i didn't know you were familiar with her body of work. >> i'm not. >> i'm not either. you both looked at me like -- paying her off right before the election. it's not just random. >> isn't it funny now michael ...

>> this is a clean one! >> the only apology should ever be made for a joke is, i'm sorry people didn't find it funny. because maybe you take a swing and a miss but you should never apologize for having a go. >> they wrote a very nasty article about me with the headline, "you cannot joke about reign." ahhhhh. turns out you can. >> the whole politically correct thing going on right now, i'm happy that it's going on but it's nothing new. every couple of decades there has to be this big ugly let's take it all apart and we see what comes out the other side. >> i caught myself a few years ago fighti...