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And each time i lost to biological male. and the fact that that is still happening, that women are still losing to biological male unless their own sport shows why we need more female athletes to speak up about this. i want to say to the female athletes in pennsylvania, don't let anyone silence you. speak up. tell the ncaa your athletic directors and your coaches that you wants fair competition because doing this is nowhere near as scary as it seems and the amount of support is overwhelming. >> will: madison, i'm just curious, you ran track, right? what was your event? >> so i did the 3 k indo...

Madison kenyon is a college track athlete who also competed against biological males. she joins me now to share her story along with her attorney kristin wagner. thank you both for being with us. i should say while leah thomas hasn't had gender surgery he did have a year's worth of hormonal treatment which is what is required it doesn't change the biological fact that he is a man. he went through pursuant as a man. he has muscle structure and everything through 22 years of his life as a man. madison, have you competed against this exact situation in track. you have competed against transgender...