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persuade her to actually talk to you? and in terms of the pressure she feels of not revealing the identity, how does she grapple with all of that? it identity, how does she grapple with all of that? ., ., ~' identity, how does she grapple with all of that? ., ., ,, , identity, how does she grapple with all ofthat? , ., identity, how does she grapple with all of that? , ., ., , ., all of that? it took us about a year or sliahtl all of that? it took us about a year or slightly over — all of that? it took us about a year or slightly over a _ all of that? it took us about a year or slightly over a year _ all of that? it took us about a year or slightly over a year to _ all of that? it took us about a year or slightly over a year to persuade j or slightly over a year to persuade steph that she wanted to talk to us and she would trust us and she only wanted to talk to radio four because she felt the shades of grey and her story would be dealt with properly. she has found it very difficult. she obviously had a wonderful time in this world but there was an incident she talks about where she went to a festival with banksy who is obviously anonymous, and they were standing in the queue and a friend of hers from hastings came past and said, are you still working for banksy? and he was absolutely livid,
the statue of liberty. this is shown throughout the film, but really take us through all sorts of things like charlottesville, and the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh, and dylan ruffin. and the things that are around us, the idea, they've never seen the number of antisemitic incidents that are taking place now. >> just a point about what a nation is, what's it identity is, which is obviously the question that hitler is posing to germans, right? but also, the americans are asking themselves about how many people they want to take, right? but it's so striking that the johnson, 1924, 65, right? 24 is the big sort of like immigration restrictions bill that will be for the first time creates this sort of total system. 65, we get rid of it. as we look at other networks, they will pinpoint, as the pivot point that america starts to go to hell. >> well, that does speak to the question of, you know, from what you just played, to who is a genuine american, who is a
pittsburgh, and dylan ruffin. and the things that are around us, the idea, they've never seen the number of antisemitic incidents that are taking place now. >> just a point about what a nation is, what's it identity is, which is obviously the question that hitler is posing to germans, right? but also, the americans are asking themselves about how many people they want to take, right? but it's so striking that the johnson, 1924, 65, right? 24 is the big sort of like immigration restrictions bill that will be for the first time creates this sort of total system. 65, we get rid of it. as we look at other networks, they will pinpoint, as the pivot point that america starts to go to hell. >> well, that does speak to the question of, you know, from what you just played, to who is a genuine american, who is a real american. at one point, we have to keep america for americans. what does that mean? but there's an implication there that certain people are worthy of being americans, and other people aren't, and we're still struggling with that. >> all three episodes of the u. s. and the holocaust are now available via pbs. ken burns and lynn novick, fantastic to have you.
say, a central point of russianl identity in terms of overcoming nazism — identity in terms of overcoming nazism but— identity in terms of overcoming nazism but whether— identity in terms of overcoming nazism but whether it - identity in terms of overcoming nazism but whether it really. nazism but whether it really means — nazism but whether it really means that _ nazism but whether it really means that we _ nazism but whether it really means that we will - nazism but whether it really means that we will be - nazism but whether it reallyl means that we will be seeing nazism but whether it really. means that we will be seeing a greater— means that we will be seeing a greater escalation _ means that we will be seeing a greater escalation of— means that we will be seeing a greater escalation of armed . greater escalation of armed hostilities, _ greater escalation of armed hostilities, i— greater escalation of armed hostilities, i am _ greater escalation of armed hostilities, i am not - greater escalation of armed hostilities, i am not sure. l greater escalation of armed . hostilities, i am not sure. find hostilities, i am not sure. and on the question _ hostilities, i am not sure. and on the question of— hostilities, i am not sure.- on the question of overcoming nazis, or three of you now mention the analogy with the 30s and 40s. have we learned the lessons, do you think, from the lessons, do you think, from the 30s? to detect in the response to putting's actions towards ukraine a sense of that history and of not allowing the mistakes of the past to be repeated?— mistakes of the past to be repeated? obviously it has taken a while, _ repeated? obviously it has taken a while, hasn't - repeated? obviously it has taken a while, hasn't it? i repeated? obviously it has l taken a while, hasn't it? and they're — taken a while, hasn't it? and they're now feeling that the end of— they're now feeling that the end of history has not arrived and _ end of history has not arrived and that— end of history has not arrived and that particularly for germany, his position has been fascinating in this period. there's— fascinating in this period. there's been a big wake—up call and i_ there's been a big wake—up call and i do — there's been a big wake—up call and i do actually think that although the germans have been quite _ although the germans have been quite sluggish on oil and gas where — quite sluggish on oil and gas where there will expose because they spent 20 years, unfortunately, ignoring the possibility of this debate, actually the chancellor has reversed a lot of the previous
and inseparable and they are the same _ and inseparable and they are the same people and through the means of enforcing _ same people and through the means of enforcing that vision, you have actually — enforcing that vision, you have actually created an enormous chasm between _ actually created an enormous chasm between russia and ukraine. if ukraine — between russia and ukraine. if ukraine did not have a national identity— ukraine did not have a national identity before this idea and by the way it— identity before this idea and by the way it most certainly did, it one now _ way it most certainly did, it one now so. — way it most certainly did, it one now so. in _ way it most certainly did, it one now. so, in a way, and some of ways vladimir— now. so, in a way, and some of ways vladimir putin— now. so, in a way, and some of ways vladimir putin has actually been placed _ vladimir putin has actually been placed with his on and he's the victim — placed with his on and he's the victim of— placed with his on and he's the victim of his own delusion and he can strike — victim of his own delusion and he can strike out in peak and he can adhere to— can strike out in peak and he can adhere to their possibility that you can simply— adhere to their possibility that you can simply crush, poison, and incinerate _ can simply crush, poison, and incinerate whole cities and populations but that still will not deliver— populations but that still will not deliver the political and which he is seeing — deliver the political and which he is seeing. do deliver the political and which he is seeina. i. ., deliver the political and which he is seeina. ,, . ., is seeing. do you agree with what simon has — is seeing. do you agree with what simon has said _ is seeing. do you agree with what simon has said in _ is seeing. do you agree with what simon has said in essence - is seeing. do you agree with what simon has said in essence there l is seeing. do you agree with what| simon has said in essence there is is seeing. do you agree with what i simon has said in essence there is a difference between what's happened in syria and what could potentially
the northeast. can you believe that? and now to rick on staten island where there is more trouble for folks trying to clean up. rick: tens of thousands two got their power back on after sandy lost it because of the nor'easter that dumped 6" on staten island. they still do not have power. they never got it the houses could look okay but the water was well over my head, they get 12' of water and we are a mile away from the ocean. we see huge piles debris and sanitation trucks were clearing massive piles of garbage. there is still so much left, 130,000 tons has been cleared. these folks are going in and out homes taking out everything. the drywall. the flooring. you can see the appliance have been pulled from the house. this is not usable. they are just moving it