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>> the point is that's where this cheap person who doesn't pay a lot of legal bills is throwing money around. it's not his money because he didn't raise it. to make sure these people don't talk and this handful of witnesses hide evidence and still after all that, it looks this bad. how much worse would it look if the doj used their powers to get more cooperation. >> isn't it jeopardy for the lawyers here, though, in advance of this meeting today? we heard a lot about potential referrals from the committee to bar associations. and, you know, i've been talking to folks and they say bar associati...

The doj used their powers to get more cooperation. >> isn't it jeopardy for the lawyers here, though, in advance of this meeting today? we heard a lot about potential referrals from the committee to bar associations. and, you know, i've been talking to folks and they say bar association, local ones would take a recommendation like this from congress seriously. >> do you remember after the cassidy hutchinson testimony, liz cheney was dropping teasers at the end of every one of these hearings. that was one of the big ones, she sent out a warning don't try to intimidate these witnesses so i think...

Cost so much that it erodes his base to put in it jeopardy. the cal congratulations for republicans is something different. and it is state by state. district by district. the president has to think short term. if he loses the senate, was it worth it? but there is actually the policy question here. i mean, if you look polling wise nationally, is it a tipping point? americans of all stripes support some form of this level. those should be quote/unquote easy. nothing in washington is easy. they have this thing called congress. they could do this thing called vote. vote and see who wins. i guess ...