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Clearly i think his counsel is telling him things will wrap up quickly just to satisfy the president. he wants it to. i think it is in the country's best interest if it wraps up quickly. but at the same time, i think they need to quit talking about it. let robert mueller do his job. and if the administration is accurate and if they have done nothing wrong, then let the facts play out. let it lead to its conclusion. i think it is important not to pre-judge the outcome of this, but i think he should do as he's done the last month or so, focus on meaningful legislation, meaningful more issues lik...

>> yeah. that -- i don't know what to add to that. it does feel like that. >> what's interesting, since the beginning of these allegations he has taken every single opportunity to do a fund-raising appeal. rye after the allegations came in, on a fund-raising appeal. his lawyer said, so sorry, can't do the full extent of this campaign and actually look into this because we don't have $20 million. that's a fund-raising appeal and what makes this despicable. they're not taking any sort of ownership, and same time they are trying to appeal as you're saying to his base and saying, look, leave this ...

Income. if the feds are following that money, does it lead to russia through the ukraine, or does it stop there? >> well, we obviously don't know the full theory of the case, but i sometimes think that we have a tendency to sort of bifurcate sort of theories of what happened. we put sort of manafort in the follow-the-money trail and the flynn and sessions and jared in the potential collusion, and it may be quite possible, and if you look at the timing of both the indictments as well as the plea statement on monday, it's quite possible that there is actually a single theory of the case, that ma...

The. scholarly town was a university town where there was actually a theology as to who is essentially. breaching us well and me as a matter of fact this ninety five thesis was documented one of the many proposals that was presented to us at the illogical debate it turned out that theological debate had deep implications for the political and the power structure of the church so it lead like fire and that's fire fired spread but it started out in actually an academic setting interesting really enough. back in what sort of place that is the town. sorry could you just repeat that figure out what...

Say that he is wrong. i hope that he is. i'm not convinced yet he will be. >> bob costa, how does the daca fight play out? does it lead to a civil war in the republican party? >> i was doing a call around yesterday to my sources. if you step back and think of this bannon statement on '60 minutes", he's laying down a marker for where the republicans stand. self deport, they have to leave. by having bannon articulate the position, it makes it almost easier to cut a deal. now the leadership say bannon is out there saying this. we have to at least include border security to keep the base happy, ma...