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Vermont, democrat joe manchin of west virginia and many others. >> this economic message platform is going to resonate. it's what we were missing, and it's not going to be baby steps. it's going to be bold. we're coming out with it this summer within a month you will see it, and democrats will try to pass it legislatively for a year and campaign on it in 2018. it's what we were missing in 2016, and in the past we're going to -- we know that. when you lose an election, you don't blame other people. you blame yourself. >> and workers at a carrier manufacturing plant in indianapolis, they are bra...

Ideas? >> it's hard to say what's a good idea until you see it legislatively. in a period of pretty low gasoline prices, you're from oklahoma, you keep an eye on the price of accrued. if you're ever going to do it, this is probably as good a time as anyone. you can also, you know, couple that with a trigger to say gasoline went above a certain price. in terms of breaking up the banks, it depends what you're talking about. banks that are large enough to cause catastrophe on the economy the big banks have picked up a much larger share of the total banking mark than they had on the eve of the gre...

Are on planes. there's an industry component. then i'll leave it up to congress to decide whether or not it is appropriate to address it legislatively. once there's a piece of legislation, we would have an opportunity to weigh in. >> asking you to clarify something else the president said. said i don't stand by anything. how is the american public supposed to digest that, supposed to trust what the president says, when he con sugts of his own comments, i don't stand by anything. >> what are you referring to? >> a cbs interview from the oval office. >> it was about wire tapping. he was asked if...

They want to meet that 100 days date deadline. i think they want to have something to show for it legislatively, which until now they don't. i also think because they were so embarrassed by the first defeat that they want to recover and get back on their feet. and some of it may be let's make it so quick that the american people don't have a chance to react, that we don't have a replay of all of those town halls that we saw for weeks and weeks where congress people were getting screamed at and hollered at by constituents which shook their faith on the bill and made a lot of them shy away from ...

Complicated? >> no. i think if you think about it legislatively in order to maximize, and i know this is -- for most people it doesn't make a ton of sense but the savings that you achieve through the first reconciliation of health care, which we're doing through the 2017 budget process, which still continues, allows us to utilize the savings in that process to maximize additional tax reform measures that will start in the 2018 fy 2018 reconciliation process. while that sounds like a ton of inside baseball gobbledy xwook. in order to maximize tax reform on the corporate side to make businesses ...