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This. everybody has a va hospital. right? most people know someone who's a veteran who has had to go through this system. >> i was really moved watching those interviews and other interviews by the pain that people suffered because somebody couldn't get in their dad, their -- another family couldn't get into the hospital. and yet look at the irs scandal. most people don't have 501c3s they have to worry about being audited or not getting preferential tax treatment, but everybody can relate to the va. >> well, look. with the irs, a lot of our discussion turns into a soap opera in which the presi...

This. everybody has a va hospital. right? most people know someone who's a veteran who has had to go through this system. >> i was really moved watching those interviews and other interviews by the pain that people suffered because somebody couldn't get in their dad, their -- another family couldn't get into the hospital. and yet look at the irs scandal. most people don't have 501c3s they have to worry about being audited or not getting preferential tax treatment, but everybody can relate to the va. >> well, look. with the irs, a lot of our discussion turns into a soap opera in which the presi...