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What i -- and it's that relationship. i give mike credit for doing it. >> absolutely. >> but you have to keep at it. it has to be an everyday thing. >> no one is saying he isn't, by the way. >> but, again, one meeting, 800 tickets, wristbands. no. you go to the high school. you open the doors. you say hey, we're here. and i'm going to be here as long as you guys want to be here and, willie, if you guys don't get all your questions answered tonight i'm going to cancel events. i'll be here tomorrow night, too, and the next night, and the next night. and as long as you guys want to talk to me i'm...

Possible because he's pressured by his party to be so conservative. >> you'll be led by the base and pundits that listen to say anything you do that is true to your values is going to be popular. i think republicans when it comes to state backlash in states and what happens electorally they would like it to be the wisconsin recall. push through everything and see scott walker wong and democrats would point to the states that swung republicans, unions got back off the map and won and took them to look at sp-5 in ohio in 2011 that union bill was overturned by the voters. if you are the base you ...