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>> i think you're right, bill. the generic ballot is volatile. you want to look at what will happen in suburban cities and suburban counties across the country. that's democrats, where it's money for democrats. we talking to college-educated white women and men where we have to make up ground for us to win the mid-term election big. where we aren't making inroads is in rural america and -- we need to have conversations with those voters. with that being said republicans aren't having a conversation with those voters. brad can talk about the tax plan but sadly their number one messenger, the pr...

Trophy or ribbon or something. >> we'll give you something. kimberly, bernie sanders? he's been running strong, right? i mean, surprising a lot of people. but he has yet to attack hillary clinton on the main point on which she is vulnerable, which is trustworthiness and this whole issue, for example, of the e-mail scandal. is he afraid to attack her? >> i think it's too soon for that. >> why? >> right now he's trying to sell himself. he's doing quite a good job of it making inroads in new hampshire and in iowa as well. let him keep going, getting in front of people. he's amassing large crowds,...