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Actual perpetrator spike 25%. the narrative is false. >> martha: juan, what do you think you might >> i'm a resident of the district of columbia and i got to tell you i think a lot of these crimes are against who are gay, lgbtq, however you want to say it enough and perpetrated by young. i think is a high level of intolerance in terms of the community? we've seen some -- it's not that large. but the largest segment of it is, again, people who are lgbtq people, and i think you're saying a lot of intolerance in terms of young black men. >> martha: heather macdonald and juan williams, good to see...

So i think this slowly is getting through chinese skepticism. justifiable chinese skepticism for the past year and a half or so. president trump wasn't all that serious, there were divisions in the white house, people are getting fired. now i think they are a little more afraid of him, frankly. i think that's a good thing. we can make more rapid progress now if this chinese delegation will come to washington for around 13 and we make some progress getting back to sort of what the undated in may. >> martha: i guess the question is always whether or not you can verify it because it's very diffic...

Including donald trump. he is the author of the 100 year marathon, china's secret strategy to replace america as the global superpower, which is widely read in the white house and in the halls of power all around this country. dr. michael pillsbury is also director for china strategy at the hudson institute. great to have you here this evening. let me jump right in with the tray discussion and how you read this sort of we would like to proceed in a calm negotiation manner. are you hearing something different in the language being used around this today? i don't think michael is hearing me. are...

Treaty sent to the senate for ratification. so if it's binding, if it's as detailed as it sounds like it is, xi has already may be gone halfway and what we need now is going to be this final legally binding signature. if one of that should be xi himself or somebody on his team, that may be part of the questiot i do want to emphasize espionage by both sides is very important in who will succeed in trade negotiations. i hope our site has a better understanding of their bottom line and how to negotiate than they do and i have a hunch that that's what's been going on. >> martha: fascinating. thank...

Premier in china in terms of this calm strategy for negotiation. what are you picking up here about what's changing from the chinese side? >> well, just to link your two stories, there is a connection between trade negotiations and espionage. hypothetically speaking, imagine if the chinese have espionage-type access to our negotiating position. this would tend to explain why they reneged in late april, early may, because they may have thought president trump has a fallback as they just stall for time, they'll get a better deal from his side. that apparently failed, the president was onto it. w...