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Your mother, she had to think about this. she was taking on quite a responsibility. >> yes. >> a couple of young kids would be coming. she had her own nearly grown kids. she had thought about a life of traveling around the world. >> yes. >> she had to give this a second thought. look what you provided for her. do you think about that? i did pretty well. >> i do. i know. i'm still a pain sometimes. i think it's for the best. i think that's how i keep her youth. >> absolutely. i can imagine keeping up with you. it's extraordinary watching you particularly on vault and floor. the heights to which...

It's not the pilots' fault, they didn't have the training. but other situations where they haven't been able to get the masks on. les is so right. it's all in the training. know where it is, how to get it on and how important to do that. so it all comes back to basically how well were they trained, if they had an emergency, how well were they trained to do it? >> treinteresting, as paul said. pre-planning, looking for the black boxeses listening for the blacks boxes. you may have a check list were training. when it actually happens, you know what? and you don't know what's going to happen. >> ...

Piers, i'm with national county sheriffs deputy, not the police department. i want to make that slight correction. when you think about mental illness and again, the training the officers undergo, we call it muscle memory. when you train hard and you train properly, it becomes something you do instantaneously. monday morning quarterback is a little late. clearly the message we are using is clearly questionable. is there a lesser degree of force when you deal with somebody dealing with a mental illness and hard to diagnose. clearly there has to be something said by one of your other guests is t...