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Romney doesn't talk about the fact that the program was paid for by the federal government. the federal government haven't that luxury. we had to pay for it. that is one way the federal affordable care act is more ambitious and the second is it tackles cost control which we didn't do in massachusetts. it wasn't a goal of our law. looks like we are lowering premiums. that's great but that wasn't the goal. the federal bill is trying to through a number of avenues tackle the critical issue of health care cost control. >> johnathon gruber, graphic novel creator extraordinaire, thank you for being ...

For it. romney doesn't talk about the fact that the program was paid for by the federal government. the federal government haven't that luxury. we had to pay for it. that is one way the federal affordable care act is more ambitious and the second is it tackles cost control which we didn't do in massachusetts. it wasn't a goal of our law. looks like we are lowering premiums. that's great but that wasn't the goal. the federal bill is trying to through a number of avenues tackle the critical issue of health care cost control. >> johnathon grubber, graphic novel creator extraordinaire, thank you f...

Which seems like passive-aggressive. like and what about the rest of you in kansas? then i went to his health care page, maybe it was there. seemed an obvious enough place for him to put the triumph. his health care page never mentioned a fact mitt romney as governor of massachusetts passed and implemented the nearest thing to universal health care that exists in any state in the whole country. never mentions it, like they forgot. or maybe like they are trying to hide it. which is crazy, because the health care plan he passed is working. providing health care to more than 95% of the state's re...

Romneycare was twofold, cover uninsured citizens and we covered two-thirds of citizens. the insurance rate is 2 down 2% which is european levels and the second was to fix a broken or nongroup insurance market n. that market since we passed this law we have lowered premiums by 50% relative to national trend. we have done this with broad public support. so, yes, it set goels and it achieved them. >> toward the end of romney's op-ed he said the federal government can do what states cannot. that there is a role for them and realign incentives. does reform care do this and take that advice? >> if y...

What it is, why it is necessary and how it works. good to see you. >> good to see you, ezra. >> you advised the authors of both of the bills. you know the laws inside and out. is there a huge difference that accounts for romney signed one and is running against the other. >> it is no substantive difference. the core of the national affordable care act or obamacare is the same as what we did in massachusetts. it was based on and inspired by massachusetts. it wouldn't have happened if we didn't succeed in massachusetts. >> you follow the literature on health care reform and health care policy cl...