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Colonel yesterday in his testimony even though he testified in his opening statement he doesn't know who the whistle-blower is. what were their tactics today? was it anything similar to that? was it obstructionist or were they spectators today? >> i felt they were a little more subdued, quite frankly. i think at this point it's been made clear by chairman schiff and also the counsel for the witnesses that they're not going to allow for anybody to get them to intentionally or in inadvertently release the names of people that could be whistle-blowers. as you know whistle blowers are protected un...

Yes, the phone call on the face of it is really damning to the president. he said i need a favor, though. there's no question that he was asking for something of value, which is an act violation, soliciting a bribe. it's a terrible thing to have done. it endangers our security. it endangers ukraine's security. it helps only one person and that's putin and russia. it all goes back to russia. so it's really getting to be strong but you need it in context where you say for months before that rudy giuliani was really trying to get them to make up an investigation, make up evidence that doesn't exi...

People, and while he's vulnerable, it's certainly not a foregone conclusion that he's unelectable. a lot of republicans are dancing early on that. >> i'm looking at the example of truman. back in '48 the classic example of a -- of an upset was harry truman tying dewey. not much of a candidate from new york to the do-nothing congress. wouldn't let him loose. >> he hardly mentioned governor dewey's name. just kept beating up on the congress. look, one of the things that's important. it's not just negative. he's starting to look more like a leader, chris. he's starting to talk about things that r...

A leader, chris. he's starting to talk about things that resonate with people. he's starting to deliver a simple message. pass this bill was a great -- whoever thought up that. it was a great, simple and direct message. if you want to create jobs, bass this bill. anybody who doesn't it obstructionist. i mean, they are doing things well. i think substantively the nation needs part of this bill desperately, but politically they have been the best they have ever been. >> don't you think -- i know, steve, you're on the show to defend the republican point of view. i don't expect you to say yeah, yo...

Pass this bill was a great -- whoever thought up that. it was a great, simple and direct message. if you want to create jobs, bass this bill. anybody who doesn't it obstructionist. i mean, they are doing things well. i think substantively the nation needs part of this bill desperately, but politically they have been the best they have ever been. >> don't you think -- i know, steve, you're on the show to defend the republican point of view. i don't expect you to say yeah, you're right. don't you think it's been a hard sell for eric cantor who put all this money on the tea party, the guys in the...