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Off your loans. i paid off my student loans. i get that. but i was not in an economy during the pandemic. dan: i will let you respond. what i don't get is you haven't explained. you keep saying this is going to be helping. don't you find it odd that for 40 years the government has been trying to help, and the spaces they try to help the most, healthcare and college education are places where prices explode? don't they put that together? >> i don't know you can blame the last 40 years solely on liberals and democrats bad ideas according to you. dan: republicans in the swamp

Off your loans. i paid off my student loans. i get that. but i was not in an economy during the pandemic. dan: i will let you respond. what i don't get is you haven't explained. you keep saying this is going to be helping. don't you find it odd that for 40 years the government has been trying to help, and the spaces they try to help the most, healthcare and college education are places where prices explode? don't they put that together? >> i don't know you can blame the last 40 years solely on liberals and democrats bad ideas according to you. dan: republicans in the swamp

Off your loans. i paid off my student loans. i get that. but i was not in an economy during the pandemic. dan: i will let you respond. what i don't get is you haven't explained. you keep saying this is going to be helping. don't you find it odd that for 40 years the government has been trying to help, and the spaces they try to help the most, healthcare and college education are places where prices explode? don't they put that together? >> i don't know you can blame the last 40 years solely on liberals and democrats bad ideas according to you. dan: republicans in the swamp

Investigators coming and talking to his attorneys. but what i -- call me crazy. is it odd that the attorneys shows the investigators where these documents, i guess, were? >> not necessarily. i mean, they're at that point trying to make things seem like everything is okay, you don't have to be concerned about this. so, they're going to show them the documents. but talk about leaving the fox in control of the chicken coop. those were in a padlocked door. that's second guessing, 20/20 hindsight. something happened between that meeting and the search warrant to take away any trust or confidence th...

It has been a major question as well. >> kaitlan collins, thank you for bringing us the latest update on this huge news. we are again joined by former federal prosecutor -- are back with me as well as john avalon, also joining us. happy to have you here. you have the best insight. we all have great insight into what's happening. this is really interesting. as we just heard, donald trump himself saw these investigators coming and talking to attorneys, and call me crazy, is it odd that the attorneys showed the investigators wear these documents, i guess, or? >> not necessarily. at that point the...