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And say, impermissible. you give it up or we're going to blow you off the face of the earth. that's not the right approach. you've backed them into a corner. this is a guy who kills his relatives to stay in power. there's no reason to think in a use it or lose it situation, that he would suddenly become a humanitarian and say oh, i give up. i don't want to have these innocent people killed. >> lieutenant commander rogers, is it posable to have north korea at this point get rid of his nuclear capabilities? >> we're going to have to make sure that they get rid of them. the general is right about...

>> i don't know what accept them means but i know this that they do have nuclear capability and i'd like to be able to talk them out ofitbut i don't think you can sort of just wave your hand and say impermiscible. you give it up or we're going to blow you off the face of the earth. that's not the right approach. you've backed them into a corner. this is a guy who kills his relatives to stay in power. there's no reason to think in a lose it or use it situation, he would say in that case, i give up. i don't want these innocent people killed. >> lieutenant commander rogers, is it posable to have...