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The defendant? >> i said, yes, i know. >> you don't recall saying i hate that thug music? >>. no if i would have said anything, i would have called it rap crap. >> were the prosecutors there trying to show that he thought jordan davis was a thug? >> well, for sure they were trying to develop that point and get it across. and give them some credit. they had a very strong contradiction between what michael dunn was saying and what his own fiancee was saying. not only about that, but the question whether dunn told her that he had in fact claimed he saw a gun. so they did a good job i think by all...

I don't recall saying that. >> you don't recall saying, i hate that thug music? >> no, if i would have said anything, i would have called it rap crap. >> great to have you here. you've been following this trail closely. >> yes. >> what strikes me is the point, a million different interactions i've witnessed, at gas stations, 7-elevens, subways. >> people have been screaming for people to turn down rap music and hip-hop since the 80s, it doesn't always result in someone's loss of life. i'm glad you guys talk about the letters, the letters reveal some real racialized thinking. how ironic is this...

>> no, if i would have said anything, i would have called it rap crap. >> great to have you here. you've been following this trail closely. >> yes. >> what strikes me is the point, a million different interactions i've witnessed, at gas stations, 7-elevens, subways. >> people have been screaming for people to turn down rap music and hip-hop since the 80s, it doesn't always result in someone's loss of life. i'm glad you guys talk about the letters, the letters reveal some real racialized thinking. how ironic is this that the system is biassed. the court system is biassed in favor of blacks, the...

>> you don't recall saying, i hate that thug music? >> no, if i would have said anything, i would have called it rap crap. >> great to have you here. you've been following this trail closely. >> yes. >> what strikes me is the point, a million different interactions i've witnessed, at gas stations, 7-elevens, subways. >> people have been screaming for people to turn down rap music and hip-hop since the 80s, it doesn't always result in someone's loss of life. i'm glad you guys talk about the letters, the letters reveal some real racialized thinking. how ironic is this that the system is biassed....

Anger, that he shot into that car because he's being disrespected. and when you shoot spepintentioy in anger that is first-degree murder. >> he told police the muse ib was not playing when he pulled up next to the suv and you recall over the weekend, his fiance testified that he said that he hated that thug music. his words. this is what he said today. >> they asked you was the music playing. >> and it wasn't. if they had music on, it wasn't heavy base where i would notice it. >> but it was loud enough to be thug music, right? >> that's what rhonda characterized. i don't recall saying that. >>...