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Power make the rules. certainly they make the rules with regard to redistricting. while we won't redistrict on the congressional level for another eight or so years, local districts don't have those same rules. so, we have to all be concerned when we start to see these individuals drawing districts or doing things that really are going to disenfranchise and hurt, because it is very, very polarized there in the south. and i'm just not -- i'm concerned what will happen at this point. >> it starts to remind me when we talk about the immigration debate and we talk about -- right now it's passioned...

Racism in america and taking away the policies, laws and constitutional structures that have been the weapons to fight racial, you know, white supremacy and if you go back and look at some of his writing on this topic. he and scalia had this very clear view that the primacy of the constitution puts primacy on color blindness as opposed to racial equality. the mechanisms by which we ensure racial equality often require granular attention to race. >> to see the world in black and white, as it actually is. >> when you're looking at, texas wants it redistrict, you have to go through the texas dist...