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Many democrats as something that will rally the base. >> oh, absolutely. we talk about new york and we talk about cortez, one of her main stump speeches before and after she won that promissory was abolish ice and we're starting to see it ripple across a sector of the democratic party and we're wondering if that's sort of matching, you know, a gop argument of build the wall and where the two arguments are clashing and you see the groups of people. you see hundreds of thousands of people who are protesting and you're wondering right now, also, what sort of the democratic establishment is thinki...

While? you can't play with them! >> greg: president trump, what he does and people in the media forget, he likes to introduce options that were never introduced before because he's like, why not? no one's ever said i can't do this. let's just see what happened. he likes to toss a stone into the pond and watch it ripple, but the -- the person who doesn't take donald trump's words seriously most is donald trump! words are free. it's like steam coming off an engine. he can talk a squirrel off a nut truck. so his words are free. they flow and if he changes his mind, he changes his mind. he doesn't...