three people again. and wooerl bring keith sutherland and former prosecutor fred. thanks for having me. there are limited options for the juveniles. this kid had a broken arm and beaten up and ended up in the hospital. what could the judge do. there is a lot of back and forth. we are curious to so what the judge will do. they could sentence them to juvenile hall which is not a good place for youths to be. kids come out of their worse than when they went in. they are first- time offenders. you have to strike a balance and you don t want to throw a kid away. it was a violent act and the bus driver s attorney said school policy. was it school policy to tell them who they were ratting them out? that is a question here. the grandmother would have gone