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Table and the grown-up's table, right? which was another weird part of the last go-around, because, obviously, it segments things in a certain way. this is a very technical question, but it proved to be an important one. does the person polling at the top get the middle of the stage? this was -- i think this was a sort of understated part of donald trump's sort of ability to sort of get the attention in that he was always in the center, because he was always polling with some plurality lead. >> right, those are the things we'll work out with you all, but, again, our goal is to make sure that e...

Demonstrate that you have received donations from 65,000, at least, unique donors, including at least 200 donors from a minimum of 20 states, that's another way to get on the debate stage. and we did that because we want to encourage people to get out there and talk to the grassroots. we modeled this after the campaign finance laws of 1971 and we modernized them to fit today's world. and the most -- one of the most important things is, again, if we have 14 people who qualify, we'll do it two nights in a row and it will be random selection. we want to make sure people get a fair shake and we wa...

For people with pre-existing conditions. that's a phony argument. >> this amendment would allow insurers to offer cheaper, bare bones policies. how would that work n your view? >> one thing i like about stephen is he is more honest. he explained what happens, cheap insurance for younger people. the money that's put in, essentially, this bill creates high risk pools. it segments the older individuals in high risk pools. stephen is right, with enough money you can deal with that. there's not enough money. it's not nearly enough to make insurance affordable for the sick and older people. these ar...

It segments that there's nothing obvious that's new in the bill to try to slow the groo growth because of the third party payer system we have through provider services and medicare and the like. so i'm not sure that -- >> you ryan, sorry to interrupt you. given the frustration that these lawmakers have heard from americans as they went home to their districts and home states right now, why wouldn't a smarter effort going forward be to do something bipartisan in this limited moment right here? the president, the great disrupter, as opposed to, as this administration has done, undermining obama...