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Targets for future investigation. the point of the conflict and testimony that glenn simpson, the cofounder of fusion gps, the firm behind the dossier. bruce orr, justice department official, over the handling of the dossier. and then there's his wife, nellie orr, who worked with fusion gps. as you remember, last month mark meadows made a criminal referral for nelly or on what's considered to be discrepancies. that could be a violation for all of them, of 1,001. that's an automatic five years for lying to federal investigators, julie. >> julie: catherine herridge, thank you so much. let's not ...

>> it's amazing because climate change affects red and blue states, cities and rural america. jonathan, in your new book you talk about this deep political divide of urban and rural america. is it smart for democrats to focus on climate change which right now does have a very progressive brand and doesn't necessarily connect with rust belt voters? >> well, i think climate change is a lot like any other issue and people's prempss are highly correlated with population density, true on economic and social issues and seems to be the case also with environmental issues so the democrats have the sam...

Let's ask fox news headlines 24/7 reporter carl. let me start with you, i don't know if you guys follow the stock, but it has been an unmitigated disaster. i don't think they need to kick any passengers to the curb. to speak at this happen today? >> charles: they have a long way to go. >> a uber executive said it best when she said respect is a two-way street. uber, what is one thing that every parent would be horrified that their child does, get in the back of a stranger's car, and that is what uber does. anything to increase safety for a passenger and writers is a great idea, but you are rig...

Part of it, chris, yes. in terms of the political messaging, of the political vulnerability of pursuing an impeachment, yes, it's all of that. but again, i think when we think about this historically and the moment that we're in, if a president is allowed to obstruct justice the way this president has and the evidence suggests, then what does it mean for the rule of law and for our democracy? what does it say to a future president, whatever their political party, about the power of the presidency to ignore the law and usurp power from congress and basically break the law. there's longer term d...

Does bernie sanders fight back, and should he strictly pack political punches, or will he get personal? >> well, i actually think sanders is still the candidate to beat in the democratic primary. he more closely aligns with the heart and soul of where the passion of democratic voters are right now, which is, quite frankly, far to left. he is the purity e candidate when it comes to, you know, all these other candidates that are running are kind of johnny come latelies. they weren't socialists, but they are democratic socialists now because it's cool to be so. i think sanders is playing it smart...