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today isjonathan shapiro, best known by his pen name zapiro. he is south africa's most prominent and controversial political cartoonist. so amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by your pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. it is a great pleasure to meet you and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago, you said moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you have been at this cartooning for four decades. can you maintain outrage forfour four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. outrage ...

my brother need not be idealized or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life. to be remembered simply as a good and decent man who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it. those of us who loved him and will take him to his rest today pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world. as he said many times in many parts of this nation to those he touched and who sought to touch him, some men see things as they are and say why, i dream things that never were and say why no...

tonight, but also getting to nikki haley. i saw your coverage of nikki haley in the last hour. just a little before you started that. in new hampshire tonight. she was asked a pretty simple question. what was the cause of the civil war? she managed to give an answer that did not include the words slavery. we're going to show you that later in this hour, and explain why she gave that answer. >> lawrence, i'm looking forward to that because i saw also that same comment after we did our segment so i'm glad you're covering it. >> thank you, jonathan. >> thanks, lawrence. >> on christmas ...

>> only about 75% of them can actually tell time from an analogue watch, adults under the age of 30. 25% actually struggle on this question. so, the fact is, i think this could be a very good thing, because it might force the kids to go back to school and actually learn how to tell time john. >> as chicago likes to say, does anybody really know what time it is, harry, does anybody really care. it's -- harry enten, thank you very much good to see you. the news continues, the source starts right now. tonight, straight from the source, the clock ticking for donald trump to appeal the co...

question. what was the cause of the civil war? she managed to give an answer they did not include the words slavery. we're going to show you that later in this hour. and explain. why she gave that answer. >> lawrence i'm looking forward to that because i saw also that same comment after we did our segment so i'm glad you're covering it. >> thank you, jonathan. >> thanks, lawrence. >> on christmas day a 77 year old criminal defendant facing racketeering charges and other felonies in four jurisdictions said that his prosecutors should rot in hell. and unlike every other criminal defend...