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Badly on her. it's not the evidence essest thing to do, even when you perceive your opponent as under pressure and on the defensive to land that blow. >> and just very quickly to both of you, because we're just about out of time. this is about as big an october surprise as i think we could imagine. carol, starting with you, put it into context, though. we've had october surprises before. and candidates have survived them. how does this match up? is it survivable? >> i think it's the accumulation of things. and this was like the final straw. i mean, i have watched the entire campaign, and see h...

Sea, and you have daytime temperatures in the high 80s in that area, and not the concern of hypothermia if it went down in alaska or something like that. so it does make it survivable if they could survive the actual crash. >> and rene talked about the fact that the ntsb and the united states government would not be involved but you have all had experience in working in different parts of the government search and rescue and something that the u.s. should help with even though there were no americans on it and it is not a u.s.-based company? >> well two things the search and the rescue and the...