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He's got omarosa with it tapes to taunt him. and that means killing off his enemies like he did with brennan. using mccarthy-like tactics. anything to survive. that's what's going on right now. >> and his willingness to talk with the president's blessing, does that back up the white house's position they have nothing to hide. >> the job is to come out and speut shine and polish whatever new collatomy is on a given day. what they say and this is something that mr. brinkly falls in his bailee wick is this a person -- mr. mcgahn, who seeses himself as not someone who

For now, it is hot in the news and jesse, let me go to you about how everyone is handling this. >> jesse: they both have very little credibility and they are flip floppers. they hate president trump. she should never have been hired for a job at the white house. she belongs in reality tv is a villain. he should never have hired the villain. he she's a huge back stab her. hours after she was fired, she gets on the phone starts lying to her friends and former colleagues about why she was fired. she said she quit and then hours after, she comes up with this tape where the president allegedly uses...

Had it tapes, they did not benefit them. i would always advise the president not to tape anything. >> jon: why bring up the possibility? >> i can't explain trump at all times, he can't explain himself at all times. i think to a certain extent, it may have been a warning shot to comey to make sure he was careful. >> it's the president of the united states and is disheartening to see him kind of play these games because it is not presidential and it borders on tampering with a witness. it just goes back to the narrative of trump lying, not focusing on actual pushing through the agenda and it is ...