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With me. what's your initial take? there's some reaction from the senate, some applauding what they're reading. also, manu raju and folks, orrin hatch, say this may be difficult to pass in a week's time. >> for matters of the public discussion, this is more or less the same as the house bill. people are trying to figure out how does it differ, does it thread the needle in the senate. generally it does the same thing the house bill does, and ordinary people won't make a distinction between will the medicaid changes occur in four years, six years -- the trump care rolls back medicaid. i think th...

Him to be a real mentor and the next thing you know it evolved into allegations of rape. >> and the threads are very similar exactly what you're saying. the threads involved alcohol. it involved drugs. and i think a lot of the women consensually were with him and i mean physically with him. but then they all say they woke up or at some point realized that the consent had ended but the activity had continued. and that's the line right there that they disagree with bill cosby in this 1,000 page deposition. >> joey explain what the lawyers mean when they allow their client or the client says cons...