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Increases. >> and wage increases, that's what would help us across the board. that is where people are suffering. when the president says trickle down economics are going to work, we're letting you know, we're not yet seeing it trickle down, and those companies are spending their money on stock buybacks. >> i went to a wedding and somebody said you guys are unfair to president trump. you won't talk about how great the tax cut has been. it's not actually resulting in higher wages or -- >> the person owns a lot of stock and they're looking at their 401 k and saying bring it on. they were also ha...

Would create nor jobs, stimulate the economy. that's utterly defensible. when you call it -- when somebody who presumably works for the trump administration who wants to do this, calls it trickle down, they are hurting the cause. >> and when he says that the big ceos are going to like this the most. >> then that's just idiocy. you can't de fend that. >> patty, to you, budget director mick mulvaney came out, who is a fascinating interview that erin did with him on cnn and he said if this thing really proves it is not going to, you know, that it is going to raise taxes on the middle class in the...

Charity to the state. arthur brooks, american enterprise institute has wren a lot about the moral case for free markets and about the value of people voluntarily being philanthropic. i think if you do have a situation where we count on the government to eredistribute wealth. it actually can have a chilling effect on charity. you know, when we give to other people. we benefit i think spiritually and just in terms of our attitude our happiness and so i do think it is dangerous if we have a regulatory society where government essentially disincentivizes proift giving. >> that is a danger we have ...

Business class that essentially lived very well on the proceeds of all that oil, allowing none of to it trickle down, or so little to trickle down that the slums of caracas were just horrible places, violent places seething with anger. and what chavez could do was connect with those people and give them hope, and then give them actual benefits in the form of health clinics and educational service they never had before. he paid attention to people who had been the left behinds, and they rewarded him with their very loyal support. >> in terms of the criticism directed towards chavez as being ess...

Corrupt political class and business class that essentially lived very well on the proceeds of all that oil, allowing none of to it trickle down, or so little to trickle down that the slums of caracas were just horrible places, violent places seething with anger. and what chavez could do was connect with those people. and give them hope, and then give them actual benefits in the form of health clinics and educational service they never had before. he paid attention to people who had been the left behinds, and they rewarded him with their very loyal support. >> in terms of the criticism directe...