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Undercuts what he believes is his authority as the commander in chief. >> exactly. it's worse than that. we are now talking about the prescriptions and hearings are talking about the prescriptions. he's not even accepting the diagnostics. let's be clear about that. he's still talks about the russian fake scandal. so i'm not optimistic it's going to happen in the next cycle and therefore there will be behavior like this and there will be copycat behavior like this from other foreign actors. and from other people inside our country that want to use these same mechanisms to xaser balt tensions an...

Extremists in the united states were actually radicalized years after entering the united states and that it undercuts president trump's overall reasoning for a new travel ban. what's your reaction? >> well, we certainly have seen that. we saw it in san bernardino, we saw it in orlando and we've seen in boston. i think it fits to the reality of what we've seen here in this country. but it still begs the larger question, which is the list that was originally put together was put together under the obama administration and, you know, what they looked at this those countries there in the middle e...

Thank you, all. very quickly, let me go around the table. chris christie. how big of a blow is this? >> it's a serious blow. a, we don't know what more will come out, and we know more will come out. and, b, does it play into this larger question of this personality of his and his governing style and his -- >> how much of a distraction do you think he'll be ahead of the rga when he goes down and campaigns for other people? >> to some degree, it undercuts. we've seen politicians come back from bigger things. >> the bully thing was always a room, and now everyone is on the trail, looking for that...

But also factually. it undercuts george zimmerman's claim trayvon martin was threatening him. george zimmerman claims that's him making those noises. this is only about the expert testimony. this recording could still come in, even if the experts don't testify about it. other people could testify about it, like trayvon martin's mother, who says that's my son on that recording. >> or the witness who made the 911 call who heard someone in the background as well. >> that's right. >> so let's move to this jury that's been selected here. i think i slept an hour last night watching everyone's side b...

Point of view that you can generate important information without using torture. all of our experience shows you generate better information, more accurate information when you treat prisoners humanity, when you befriend them, when you connect with them. those will defend the use of torture to the end of the day but -- i can't support that point of view. it undercuts what we stand for as americans. i remember senator mccain going to the senate year ago when senators were justifying use of torture because those are bad point. his point isn't it's about those people, it's about us. we are americ...