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Care for them. when the mothers and fathers were here, they couldn't steal jobs from americans. they have no documentation. >> you're absolutely right. it was not hurting anyone. the program was working. it wasn't large enough. it wasn't covering everybody because it had only started in a small scale. it could easily have been expanded at a fraction of the cost of what we're spendingnow. that program costs $35 per person/per family a day. opposed to hundreds -- really up to $1,000 or more that it is costing to separate and house these people separately. the trump administration ended that prog...

Next week. what do you make of that, as a strategy, by the democrats? >> i think it's incredibly smart strategy for two reasons. one is, you have to highlight this. you have to make them look like hypocrites. you have to hammer it home to people that they are lying to you. when they rail against the stimulus, they are lying. they know it works. but the more important point is that it's able under this political rubric to smuggle in an incredibly important substantiative point, which is the stimulus is working. it wasn't large enough, by any means, and we know that, but there's no way to look a...

People that they are lying to you. when they rail against the stimulus, they are lying. they know it works. but the more important point is that it's able under this political rubric to smuggle in an incredibly important substantiative point, which is the stimulus is working. it wasn't large enough, by any means, and we know that, but there's no way to look at the macroeconomic data and conclude anything other than that it has helped. it has lowered the unemployment rate, increased gdp growth, and showing that they themselves are doling out the checks, they know that. if it wasn't working, why...