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Position, an unorthodox position for sure. it plays with these areas in process, michigan, ohio. they think that the factories are gone because of trade with mexico and china and other countries. so we better figure out, austin a better way to persuade the american people that the trade deals are good for us. >> let's say it plays there. is it worth playing there and losing the rest of the country. >> i'm not defending the policy. i'm not defending the policy i'm just saying the politics. imprisoning the policy is wrong. i'm trying to tamper it back. if i advised trump, i would he will him mr....

>> let's just say it does play there. is it worth playing there and losing the rest of the country. >> i'm not defending the policy. i'm not defending the policy i'm just saying the politics. i think that the policy is wrong. i'm trying to tamper it back. if i advised trump, i would he tell him, mr. president, look, you can aim the tariffs against countries that are enemies of the united states like china and. china does steel. they're stealing our technologies, cheating on the trade deals. i'm in favor of getting tough with china. i heard the discussion with north korea. how is north korea ab...