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This can't go on. more politicians could talk like that, it would be a better country. i think, they all take sides. we have the black lives thing and the police. bobby, when he was a senator, he wasn't a snooty liberal that walked by the police post. he would stop and talk to the cops every day. and that told me about a bunch of things. he is not an aristocrat. he looked at regular people. we put up a picture on the back. >> i was writing for "the san francisco exam examiner" years ago. i wrote a cover piece. they found that. here's a guy who is probably an enlisted man in the service. he kne...

Senators flake and mccain, and how they felt about him going some more. and i found it notable the g.o.p. chair there said we don't take sides. >> i think he recognizes and we're getting polls evidence of this, a poll came out to say we don't have a small sample size. of course kelliway wariwary wai votes last year. donald trump did particularly twlel in the republican primary last year. the republican establishment and a state like arizona, they're still dealing now with some that the republican establishment had to deal with in 2016.

>> yep. not a pretty picture for them. >> well, it is what it is. people go into this eyes wide open. if you vote for somebody who can't vote for president, it means that you don't care who wins for president. >> that's what i think. and when you talk to people like that and saying, why are you letting the vote go against the person you normally support, they act like you're not really taking sides. some kind of neutrality. >> switzerland. >> and even switzerland was a pro-german neutrality. you really do take sides. what side are you on is a pretty good question. the union guys always ask tha...

Achieve their strategic goals, greta. >> is isn't it sort of, you know, criticize russia. isn't that a new commence we have been suspicious that russia and syria both assad and not fighting isis. now if isis is coming out against russia. isn't putin going to get mad and turn his guns against isis and maybe that's to our advantage? >> the bottom line is this. the this statement from zawahiri shows how this conflict is not getting smaller it's getting bigger for the jihadists. take sides. join the team, amalgamate support. putting all in same puckett. for al qaeda russia has a special historical...

At the case. it's one of those weird stories in our political culture that becomes completely polarized. that's that believe that benghazi is a big coverup won't change their mind and folks that think hillary clinton did nothing wrong won't change their mind. i doubt this will be a huge political issue for her going forward. >> a moment where politics makes the journalism of this polarized as well. thank you both so much for coming in to talk about this today. >> thank you. after the break, to be impartial or adversarial? how is journalism best practiced? bill keller and glenn greenwald take...