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Certain committees and congress people cleared for it. that makes it all the more democratic. the congress supreme who want to reveal this who don't know about what is going on can't tell the constituency. >> judge jeanine: and the author the patriot act or one of the authors sensenbrenner says it is excessive and should have been debated. should have have been debated? >> right. certainly to john's point that it is certainly true that many of the intelligence pieces that are looked at on the hill, take precedent in what we have the clearance. and senators are clear. actually take the ability ...

Form of his certificate was validated by people of hawaii. just a question why would this the this man not be believed when everybody else was? and that -- >> -- because they don't like him. people don't like. >> i think -- >> bill: opponents don't like him. >> i think that was a part of it i don't think that's the only part of it. >> bill: i don't think it's a skin color issue, mort, i really don't. >> i don't think it would have had traction with anybody else other than this candidate. you should know, i'm not a great supporter of this president at this point, okay? but that's not the issue....

Tonight, yeah, i think journalists are running away from that connection because they are journalists. they are liberals and liberals don't like to make the connection between something that they consider torture and something good like the takedown of obama. but. if you ask me tomorrow, or the day after tomorrow. or next week. i don't know what i would say because the facts keep changing. >> bill: okay. but they really don't. we reported last week with marc if beam want to see that interview i'm going to have a t. posted on the foxnation.com that the othersed interrogation did, did, lead to t...

If you were doing something to me, i'm trusting you, that's different than knowing that your enemy is waterboardinging you. >> i don't object to you saying that your opinion waterboarding is torture. that's your opinion and it's valid. what i do object to you saying that it's akin to gouging somebody's eye out or cutting their ear off. that's insane, juan. you keep running around doing it and it troubles me because i'm your friend. i'm looking ought for you, i don't want you to do that listen, this is where mary katharine talked about values and getting confused. i don't have any confusion abo...