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It would have been 9 to nothing but justice scalia passed away. it's hard to get a criminal conviction overturned. he did it unanimously. that's where this is heading. again, the problem is the supreme court probably will not take this case before the 2024 presidential election. >> laura: the key to the prosecution here he chimed in today on this indictment. watch. >> i can't assess whether or not the government has the evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt what they assert in the indictment. i want people to know that i had no right to overturn the election. sadly, the president was sur...

>> did the president tell you he doesn't respect the constitution? >> all i know is what the president asked me to do, i would have violated my oath. >> so that's not respecting the constitution? he certainly didn't respect it enough to ask you to be disloyal to the -- >> the president in the united states in that moment was receiving counsel from attorneys who were telling him, as the bible says, what itching ears want to hear. he had beginning in mid november, dismissing some of the capable and extraordinary

President's lawyers, saying, they're not telling you the truth, set into motion a change that would happen in the days that followed, where those outside lawyers replaced the extraordinarily competent lawyers on the campaign. and it was a fateful decision in that moment. i mean, look, the president made his own decisions along the way. but the american people deserve to know that the president was surrounded by a group of advisers who, as the good book says, were telling him what his itching ears wanted to hear. and those of us that were telling him different were telling him that we have a pr...

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Now it is the president's choice, how stupid he makes them look by asking them to defend the indefensible. >> i want to ask you about something that richard perry said. he was asked yesterday. he compared, he said something compared to what nemd 2015. listen to this. >> mr. president, i know there are people who say, you said you were the chosen one. and i said you were. >> my fellow republicans, beware of false profits. do not let itching ears be tickled by messengers who feel anger, division, resentment. >> so how do you get from point b there back to point a? >> you know, rick perry who was...